Assyrian Forums
 Home  |  Ads  |  Partners  |  Sponsors  |  Contact  |  FAQs  |  About  
 
   Holocaust  |  History  |  Library  |  People  |  TV-Radio  |  Forums  |  Community  |  Directory
  
   General  |  Activism  |  Arts  |  Education  |  Family  |  Financial  |  Government  |  Health  |  History  |  News  |  Religion  |  Science  |  Sports
   Greetings · Shläma · Bärev Dzez · Säludos · Grüße · Shälom · Χαιρετισμοί · Приветствия · 问候 · Bonjour · 挨拶 · تبریکات  · Selamlar · अभिवादन · Groete · التّحيّات

Did Addai Scher make a mistake or was it the Chaldean Transl...

    Previous Topic Next Topic
Home Forums Education Topic #58
Help Print Share

Fred Aprimmoderator

View member rating
 
Send email to Fred AprimSend private message to Fred AprimView profile of Fred AprimAdd Fred Aprim to your contact list
 
Member: Nov-10-1999
Posts: 150
1 feedbacks

Did Addai Scher make a mistake or was it the Chaldean Translator?

Jul-05-2000 at 02:14 AM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

It is obvious that many problems with terms arise during the actual writting or the translation, sometimes intentionally and other times due to simple ignorance or honest mistakes. I cannot understand though, for example, how someone like bishop Addai Scher of the Chaldean Catholic Church would state in chapter 3 of his book "History of Chaldo and Atour," the following, quote: In the 2nd and 3rd centuries AD, our Chaldean Church had some martyrs reported in our chronicals and others who were reported in the Western Churches chronicals" Unquote.(rough translation from the Arabic version only for the sake of the argument)

What?! Chaldean Church in 2nd and 3rd century!!
Is this error due to the original translation from the French to Arabic done by the chaldean academy publications? I wonder what was the exact term used by Addai Scher himself in French?

During the 2nd and 3rd centuries there were no Nestorian, Assyrian, Chaldean churches in Bet Nahren, it was the original Mother Church, The Church of the East.
The Assyrians of todays Iraq and the bordering Hakkarri mountains of Turkey, and during the last two centuries, lived circumstances, we all are very well aware of. Accordingly, work done in this field was heavily published by clergy of the Chaldean Catholic Church with the support of Rome, while theology and language books held for centuries by the Assyrian mountaineers were being burned, stolen, or destroyed by Turks who were being paid by the Latin monks.

It seems too that many still do not differentiate between "LANGUAGE" and "DIALECT". We might have a different dialects depending on where at or whom with we lived, but our language is the Syriac language and we use the same alphabet, a language known to our forefathers as "Soorith".

Alert   IP Print   Edit        Reply      Re-Quote Top

Forums Topics  Previous Topic Next Topic


Assyria \ã-'sir-é-ä\ n (1998)   1:  an ancient empire of Ashur   2:  a democratic state in Bet-Nahren, Assyria (northern Iraq, northwestern Iran, southeastern Turkey and eastern Syria.)   3:  a democratic state that fosters the social and political rights to all of its inhabitants irrespective of their religion, race, or gender   4:  a democratic state that believes in the freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture in faithfulness to the principles of the United Nations Charter — Atour synonym

Ethnicity, Religion, Language
» Israeli, Jewish, Hebrew
» Assyrian, Christian, Aramaic
» Saudi Arabian, Muslim, Arabic
Assyrian \ã-'sir-é-an\ adj or n (1998)   1:  descendants of the ancient empire of Ashur   2:  the Assyrians, although representing but one single nation as the direct heirs of the ancient Assyrian Empire, are now doctrinally divided, inter sese, into five principle ecclesiastically designated religious sects with their corresponding hierarchies and distinct church governments, namely, Church of the East, Chaldean, Maronite, Syriac Orthodox and Syriac Catholic.  These formal divisions had their origin in the 5th century of the Christian Era.  No one can coherently understand the Assyrians as a whole until he can distinguish that which is religion or church from that which is nation -- a matter which is particularly difficult for the people from the western world to understand; for in the East, by force of circumstances beyond their control, religion has been made, from time immemorial, virtually into a criterion of nationality.   3:  the Assyrians have been referred to as Aramaean, Aramaye, Ashuraya, Ashureen, Ashuri, Ashuroyo, Assyrio-Chaldean, Aturaya, Chaldean, Chaldo, ChaldoAssyrian, ChaldoAssyrio, Jacobite, Kaldany, Kaldu, Kasdu, Malabar, Maronite, Maronaya, Nestorian, Nestornaye, Oromoye, Suraya, Syriac, Syrian, Syriani, Suryoye, Suryoyo and Telkeffee. — Assyrianism verb

Aramaic \ar-é-'máik\ n (1998)   1:  a Semitic language which became the lingua franca of the Middle East during the ancient Assyrian empire.   2:  has been referred to as Neo-Aramaic, Neo-Syriac, Classical Syriac, Syriac, Suryoyo, Swadaya and Turoyo.

Please consider the environment when disposing of this material — read, reuse, recycle. ♻
AIM | Atour: The State of Assyria | Terms of Service