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Crumbs-Table ?????

Mar-26-2001 at 12:21 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

Shlama Akhi Iakov,

In Luqa 16:21, we have a wordplay in Aramaic which is not preserved in the Greek translations:

The words involved are:

Parthutheh - "crumbs"
Pathureh - "(his) table"

This is again, an example of two of the main words (in the imagery of the parable) being similiar to each other.

Our Lord makes frequent use of this type of imagery and wordplay to help fascilitate the memorization by the crowds of His parables.

In Greek, the word for 'crumbs' is Psichion and for 'table' it is Trapeza.

No wordplay in Greek!


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1. RE: Crumbs-Table ?????

Mar-26-2001 at 02:44 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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>Shlama Paul,

Paul wrote)
>In Luqa 16:21, we have a
>wordplay in Aramaic which is
>not preserved in the Greek
>translations:
>The words involved are:
>Parthutheh - "crumbs"
>Pathureh - "(his) table"
>This is again, an example of

(Iakov Wrote
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>Our Lord makes frequent use of
>this type of imagery and
>wordplay to help fascilitate the
>memorization by the crowds of
>His parables.

I agree! HalelluYAH!
>
Shlama Iakov.

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2. RE: Crumbs-Table ?????

Mar-26-2001 at 03:26 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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Shlama Akhi,

Paul wrote:

('Scholars' weak attempt to salvage Greek primacy)

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Mar-26-2001 at 03:31 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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Akhi Paul,

No. Just the maintenance of the source documents integrity.

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Assyria \ã-'sir-é-ä\ n (1998)   1:  an ancient empire of Ashur   2:  a democratic state in Bet-Nahren, Assyria (northern Iraq, northwestern Iran, southeastern Turkey and eastern Syria.)   3:  a democratic state that fosters the social and political rights to all of its inhabitants irrespective of their religion, race, or gender   4:  a democratic state that believes in the freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture in faithfulness to the principles of the United Nations Charter — Atour synonym

Ethnicity, Religion, Language
» Israeli, Jewish, Hebrew
» Assyrian, Christian, Aramaic
» Saudi Arabian, Muslim, Arabic
Assyrian \ã-'sir-é-an\ adj or n (1998)   1:  descendants of the ancient empire of Ashur   2:  the Assyrians, although representing but one single nation as the direct heirs of the ancient Assyrian Empire, are now doctrinally divided, inter sese, into five principle ecclesiastically designated religious sects with their corresponding hierarchies and distinct church governments, namely, Church of the East, Chaldean, Maronite, Syriac Orthodox and Syriac Catholic.  These formal divisions had their origin in the 5th century of the Christian Era.  No one can coherently understand the Assyrians as a whole until he can distinguish that which is religion or church from that which is nation -- a matter which is particularly difficult for the people from the western world to understand; for in the East, by force of circumstances beyond their control, religion has been made, from time immemorial, virtually into a criterion of nationality.   3:  the Assyrians have been referred to as Aramaean, Aramaye, Ashuraya, Ashureen, Ashuri, Ashuroyo, Assyrio-Chaldean, Aturaya, Chaldean, Chaldo, ChaldoAssyrian, ChaldoAssyrio, Jacobite, Kaldany, Kaldu, Kasdu, Malabar, Maronite, Maronaya, Nestorian, Nestornaye, Oromoye, Suraya, Syriac, Syrian, Syriani, Suryoye, Suryoyo and Telkeffee. — Assyrianism verb

Aramaic \ar-é-'máik\ n (1998)   1:  a Semitic language which became the lingua franca of the Middle East during the ancient Assyrian empire.   2:  has been referred to as Neo-Aramaic, Neo-Syriac, Classical Syriac, Syriac, Suryoyo, Swadaya and Turoyo.

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