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Qnoma Perception

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Qnoma Perception

Mar-12-2002 at 05:32 AM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

Shlama all,

I would like to thank Akhan Dean Dana for helping me on the phone with another way to help conceptualize what is meant by Qnoma.

I'm going to post the chart again while I (hopefully) walk you through a (hopefully) helpful explanation.

Qnoma can be likened to levels of perception. What I mean by that is this: Imagine that you are pointing a camera at a crowd of people.

While at the lowest zoom possible, your perception of that crowd of people is very general and very abstract. All you can tell by this low level of zoom is that the crowd is a crowd of people. This level of perception is likened to Kyana, or Nature. It is very abstract and general.

As you zoom in closer, let's say 50% zoom, you can begin to increase your level of perception and actually see individuated instances of that general and abstract Kyana of Humanity. It's a little clearer than at 0% zoom - but you still cannot individualize or personalize anyone. Everyone looks the same at this level of perception. This level of perception is likened to Qnoma. It is a level of perception which allows you to see multiple instances of that general and abstract concept of Kyana.

Now, you zoom in 100% and you can see individual features. You see a blonde-haired man and you see someone else with red hair. You see obese and skinny people. You see someone who looks Italian and others who look Hispanic or African. Your level of perception has now increased to the very specific Parsopa level. Each Parsopa you see is different and has different physical features, personalities, strengths and weaknesses. They are individual and unique Persons.

This is a very abstract explanation and not perfect, but I hope that along with the chart it helps you to conceptualize these three terms a little bit better. And thanks to Akhi Dean again for formulating it.

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1. RE: Qnoma Perception

May-12-2003 at 02:53 AM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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I am a Chaldean Catholic. I am confused about something that I hope someone here will help explain to me. I understand that Kyana refers to an abstract nature, Qnoma refers to an individual but never personalized concrete nature, and Parsopa refers to a person. According to the chart the Father has a qnoma, the Son has a qnoma, and the Holy Spirit has a qnoma. However, only the Son is a Parsopa. Are we saying that the Father and the Holy Spirit are not persons? Further, are we saying that the Son was not a person prior to His conception?

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church on paragraph 253, the catechism confesses God as one God in three persons. Now if the Father, the Son (prior to conception), and the Holy Spirit are not Parsope or persons, then how do I reconcile this with what the catechism is saying?

Thanks for your help.


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