God has divine Kyana.Yes.
>UNBELIEVERS have human Kyana.
No - all of us (believers and unbelievers) have human Kyana. If you and I don't have human Kyana (human nature) then you and I don't exist.
>Meshikha had both.
Yes.
>BELIEVERS have both also, according to
>2 Peter 1:4 which says
>that WE are partakers and
>share fully of this divine
>nature. Isn't it called
>"the new man"?
No. Only through Christ do we "partake" of the divine nature. The Aramaic word there is "have fellowship with."
It's not in the same way Christ had divine Kyana. You and I (even being believers) cannot forgive sins or raise the dead.
It is by the fact that Meshikha took our human Kyana, in his own Qnoma, and united His divine Kyana with it, that we are able to say that we have "participation" or "fellowship" or a "partaking" with the divine kyana.
>Isn't Meshikha the perfect mediator because
>he was tempted in all
>points as we are, and
>yet did not sin.
Meshikha isn't the perfect mediator because of what he did - but because of who he is. (Philippians 2:6-11)
>Thus he can empathize with
>us. Isn't THAT what
>makes him the perfect mediator?
No, that isn't what makes Him the perfect mediator - but that is what makes Him the pefect High Priest.
> Having divine kyana does
>not mean that he was
>incapable of disobedience.
In the case of the Parsopa (person) of Christ - His humanity (human kyana) was tempted, of course, just like us. His humanity is no different than ours, except in sin. His humanity did not sin.
His divine nature was preserved in it's own Qnoma. It was not tempted, did not suffer on the Cross, did not die.
>He still had to choose to
>follow one nature or the
>other, just like we do.
We cannot, and are not even able to, follow the path He did. We do not have a divine kyana (nature) like He did. We are not capable of remaining sin-free.
>If having both Kyana made Jesus
>the perfect mediator BETWEEN God
>and men, how could he
>be God?
He is not God at the Parsopa (person) level. In His Parsopa are united two Qnome, one from the divine Kyana and one from the human Kyana.
When we speak of Meshikha as man, we are referring to his human Qnoma/Kyana (Matt. 8:20, 9:6, 12:32, etc.). When we speak of Meshikha as God, we are referring to his divine Qnoma/Kyana (John 1, Philippians 2:6-11, Acts 2:38, etc.).
>What does
>BETWEEN mean? Doesn't it
>mean that something is on
>either side of him -
>ie. God and man?
No. In science, yes. In theology, no. "Between" in Aramaic, and in English, can carry a much broader and more mystical meaning than simply physics.
The Parsopa (person) of Meshikha is a "bridge" between us and God. Because our human Kyana (nature) was taken and united to His divine Kyana (nature), it has been redeemed. We, therefore, who believe are redeemed and are "partakers of", or "have fellowship with" the Divine Kyana. This is the meaning of a "Perfect Mediator."
>Does having a divine kyana make
>Meshika God? ...No, otherwise we
>would be God as well,
>since we as born-again believers
>have the divine nature also.
You and I don't have a divine kyana. Far be it. You and I have a sinful human kyana. Only through the Parsopa (person) of Christ are we able to be redeemed, because His human Qnoma is our human Qnoma, His human Kyana is our Human Kyana. And he, in His Parsopa (person), has redeemed our humanity.
>Not all humans have divine kyana
>- only those who are
>born-again.
No human, apart from the Parsopa of Meshikha, had or has divine kyana.
>The Bible calls
>those who are not born-again,
>"natural men" (1Cor.2:14).
In Aramaic, actually, the verse reads very differently from the Greek you have quoted.
It tells us that "For a son of man, in his Napsha (Nefesh), does not accept spiritual things..."
This is in stark contrast to sons of men who accept things in their Rukha (spirit) (v. 15).
These verse simply teach us that there is a distinction between how different people either accept, or don't accept, the message of the gospel. Those who do it in their Nephesh (v. 14) find the message foolish, but those who do it in their Rukha (v. 15) fully understands.
These verses do not, as you imply, draw a distinction between men (believers and non-believers) who are otherwise identical in Kyana and Qnoma. It merely distinguishes between their actions.
>An unbeliever is body and soul.
> A person who is
>born-again has received the gift
>of holy spirit, and is
>now body, soul, and spirit.
Everyone, believer or non-believer, has body, soul and spirit.
> It is the presence
>of holy spirit that gives
>us our divine kyana, or
>nature - ie. the new
>man.
No - we don't have nor will we ever have divine kyana.
Don't confuse the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in believers with having "divine kyana." We only have fellowship with God - we can never be God.
>Body soul and
>spirit cannot be separated from
>the understanding of kyana, qnoma
>and parsopa. Somehow one
>is a characteristic of the
>other - ie. parsopa, in
>a manner of speaking (figurative).
>
>
>Is this not correct?
We can get to these other terms, and how they relate to our discussion, after we fully understand the first set of terms.
You're almost there! 
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