Shlama Akhi Pual, You said:
>Only through Christ do
>we "partake" of the divine
>nature. The Aramaic word
>there is "have fellowship with."
>
>It's not in the same way
>Christ had divine Kyana.
>You and I (even being
>believers) cannot forgive sins or
>raise the dead.
I recall that there were other MEN besides Christ who raised people from the dead. How then are they able to do that? As for forgiving sins, I only know that Jesus said that the works that he did WE can do also, and Greater works as well.
>Meshikha isn't the perfect mediator because
>of what he did -
>but because of who he
>is. (Philippians 2:6-11)
Who he is, is definitely part of the requirement. But "what he did" had to be a prerequisite as well, for had he chose to disobey even one time, then he would have been disqualified, just as the first Adam was.
>His humanity (human kyana) was tempted,
>of course, just like us.
>His humanity is no
>different than ours, except in
>sin. His humanity did
>not sin.
>
>His divine nature was preserved in
>it's own Qnoma. It
>was not tempted, did not
>suffer on the Cross, did
>not die.
We do not sin either in our "new man", only in our "old man".
1John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1John 3:8
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
We sin in our "flesh" but cannot sin in our holy spirit or "new man".
>We cannot, and are not even
>able to, follow the
>path He did.
Again, what about John 14:12?
John14:12
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
>In science, yes.
>In theology, no. "Between"
>in Aramaic, and in English,
>can carry a much broader
>and more mystical meaning than
>simply physics.
I can't believe that you are actually saying this. I must be reading this wrong.
>No - we don't have nor
>will we ever have divine
>kyana.
>
>Don't confuse the indwelling of the
>Holy Spirit in believers with
>having "divine kyana." We
>only have fellowship with God
>- we can never be
>God.
That is my point. We can never be God. BUT the gift of holy spirit is God in Christ IN US. God is in us just like God was in Christ. Certainly that is a divine nature. God raised Christ from the dead and he is in his NEW body, a spiritual body. When we are raised from the dead, we will receive our new bodies also - just like the one he now has.
If not, then what does it mean when it says that "we shall be like him"?
1John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Adam was formed, made, and created - body, soul, and spirit. Body from the dust of the ground, soul when God "breathed" into him the breath of life, and spirit (holy spirit, eternal life spirit) which is the image of God. Soul life is breath-life, the life of the flesh, and is in the blood. It is spirit, but not "eternal life spirit". Therefore, it is often referred to as "the spirit of man". The "spirit of man" is always a reference to "soul life", NOT eternal life spirit which is "holy spirit". How does this differ from your understanding of soul and spirit?
Agape,
Don
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