Fred
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Dec-20-2001 at 03:14 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria) |
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Sam, I wonder what you meant by your statement that Babylonians were a kingdom before Assyria existed? Historically, it has been well established that both the Assyrians and Babylonians, as Empires we know today, came from the first real empire in the world, that of the Akkadians. There was no empire in the region we knew later as Babylonia until after the Akkadians have in essense given birth to both Assyrians and Babylonians. The early inhabitants of Babil mentioned in the Bible are not necessarily of the same stock of the Babylonians who established the Babylonian Empire later. In the Land of Shinar (Sumer) there existed small city states like Eruck, Ur, and yes Babil. These city states were hardly portrayed as kingdoms in history and were in constant battle with each other until the Akkadians united the entire region politically. It is very interesting that the Akkadian King Sargon was referred to as Sargon I, while the Assyrian King Sargon was referred to as Sargon II. Does that tell you something? In addition Sargon I, the Akkadian, left us inscriptions referring to his city as that on the Euphrates and not the Tigris. Understanding the path of the Tigris and Euphrates in Iraq should explain the point behind why I mentioned this since it should give us a hint to where the powerful Akkad was. And then we have the Bible mentioning that out of the Land of Shinar went forth Assur and built Nineveh and other cities. If you like to argue this point any further, please present your argument while providing some historical and scholarly quotes, and I will be more than happy to discuss the issue further. Thanks.
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