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12. RE: Assyrianism

Dec-20-2001 at 03:14 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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Sam,
I wonder what you meant by your statement that Babylonians were a kingdom before Assyria existed? Historically, it has been well established that both the Assyrians and Babylonians, as Empires we know today, came from the first real empire in the world, that of the Akkadians. There was no empire in the region we knew later as Babylonia until after the Akkadians have in essense given birth to both Assyrians and Babylonians. The early inhabitants of Babil mentioned in the Bible are not necessarily of the same stock of the Babylonians who established the Babylonian Empire later. In the Land of Shinar (Sumer) there existed small city states like Eruck, Ur, and yes Babil. These city states were hardly portrayed as kingdoms in history and were in constant battle with each other until the Akkadians united the entire region politically. It is very interesting that the Akkadian King Sargon was referred to as Sargon I, while the Assyrian King Sargon was referred to as Sargon II. Does that tell you something? In addition Sargon I, the Akkadian, left us inscriptions referring to his city as that on the Euphrates and not the Tigris. Understanding the path of the Tigris and Euphrates in Iraq should explain the point behind why I mentioned this since it should give us a hint to where the powerful Akkad was. And then we have the Bible mentioning that out of the Land of Shinar went forth Assur and built Nineveh and other cities.

If you like to argue this point any further, please present your argument while providing some historical and scholarly quotes, and I will be more than happy to discuss the issue further. Thanks.

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Assyria \ã-'sir-é-ä\ n (1998)   1:  an ancient empire of Ashur   2:  a democratic state in Bet-Nahren, Assyria (northern Iraq, northwestern Iran, southeastern Turkey and eastern Syria.)   3:  a democratic state that fosters the social and political rights to all of its inhabitants irrespective of their religion, race, or gender   4:  a democratic state that believes in the freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture in faithfulness to the principles of the United Nations Charter — Atour synonym

Ethnicity, Religion, Language
» Israeli, Jewish, Hebrew
» Assyrian, Christian, Aramaic
» Saudi Arabian, Muslim, Arabic
Assyrian \ã-'sir-é-an\ adj or n (1998)   1:  descendants of the ancient empire of Ashur   2:  the Assyrians, although representing but one single nation as the direct heirs of the ancient Assyrian Empire, are now doctrinally divided, inter sese, into five principle ecclesiastically designated religious sects with their corresponding hierarchies and distinct church governments, namely, Church of the East, Chaldean, Maronite, Syriac Orthodox and Syriac Catholic.  These formal divisions had their origin in the 5th century of the Christian Era.  No one can coherently understand the Assyrians as a whole until he can distinguish that which is religion or church from that which is nation -- a matter which is particularly difficult for the people from the western world to understand; for in the East, by force of circumstances beyond their control, religion has been made, from time immemorial, virtually into a criterion of nationality.   3:  the Assyrians have been referred to as Aramaean, Aramaye, Ashuraya, Ashureen, Ashuri, Ashuroyo, Assyrio-Chaldean, Aturaya, Chaldean, Chaldo, ChaldoAssyrian, ChaldoAssyrio, Jacobite, Kaldany, Kaldu, Kasdu, Malabar, Maronite, Maronaya, Nestorian, Nestornaye, Oromoye, Suraya, Syriac, Syrian, Syriani, Suryoye, Suryoyo and Telkeffee. — Assyrianism verb

Aramaic \ar-é-'máik\ n (1998)   1:  a Semitic language which became the lingua franca of the Middle East during the ancient Assyrian empire.   2:  has been referred to as Neo-Aramaic, Neo-Syriac, Classical Syriac, Syriac, Suryoyo, Swadaya and Turoyo.

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