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christianity is designed to shutdown Assyrianism!!

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18. Contradictions

May-21-2001 at 10:39 AM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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>Your are claiming that "Assyrianism with
>a pre-Christian belief in God
>is paralyzed until that belief
>is COMPLETED with a belief
>in Christ."!!!.
>
>Who dare shall accept such logic?
>Jesus was another evidence to
>make those pagans to realize
>that there is God.

So, you are saying that Assyrianism included an ordained belief in God. Therefore, since 'Jesus was another evidence to make those papgans to realize that there is no God' means that Assyrians could hear Jesus' word but don't need it because they already have a working understanding of God.

My question to you is: Do Jewish people, who have had a sound pre-Christian relationship with God and continue to respect, worship and honor their God (including their 'Zionist ideology') ...do these people need to believe in Christ to see God's kingdom and get salvation? By all means, most contemporary Jews respect and look kindly upon the word of Christ and its message. They believe Jesus to be a wise teacher, reverent of Yahweh but not God incarnate. These people, like the Assyrianist-Assyrian pre-Christians, have a working understanding of God and Israel. According to your model, do they need to believe in Christ? If so, why? What would Christ do to augment their working understanding of God and Israel? Would Chrsit detract from their Israeli-ism?

Sadly, you've already answered my question:


>Before 6000 years who was thinking
>about Jesus and christianity??and In
>fact the word of God
>was served properly as we
>are doing now.

You also answered my question in this passage:

>Simply, Who should you respect more?
>Those who believed in God
>with not having any assistance
>from Jesus, in fact without
>knowing Jesus to force them
>by evidences in believing in
>God, or you respect those
>whom Jesus brought to them
>hundreds of evidences and experiments
>to make them believe in
>God!!!!!??
My dear Albert, the Jews fit your model precisely! In your dissertation on Assyrianism, you've conveniently forgotten that the Jews, too, were symmetrical as a people with the Assyrians. According to the Bible, they were the first to receive God's covenant and follow his Will; according to your research Assyrians also did this. Therefore, according to your model for Assyrianism, Jews also fit this model and theoretically do not need a working belief in Christ that would SAVE THEM AND COMPLETE THEIR COVENANT WITH GOD.

I URGE you to seek the council of a theologian or someone vested in a systematic, scholarly understanding of God. You have no basis for revising history without a good defense. You are basically a revisionist until you provide an annotated reference list of textbooks that echo and posit your theory.
Until then,
Julia

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Assyria \ã-'sir-é-ä\ n (1998)   1:  an ancient empire of Ashur   2:  a democratic state in Bet-Nahren, Assyria (northern Iraq, northwestern Iran, southeastern Turkey and eastern Syria.)   3:  a democratic state that fosters the social and political rights to all of its inhabitants irrespective of their religion, race, or gender   4:  a democratic state that believes in the freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture in faithfulness to the principles of the United Nations Charter — Atour synonym

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Assyrian \ã-'sir-é-an\ adj or n (1998)   1:  descendants of the ancient empire of Ashur   2:  the Assyrians, although representing but one single nation as the direct heirs of the ancient Assyrian Empire, are now doctrinally divided, inter sese, into five principle ecclesiastically designated religious sects with their corresponding hierarchies and distinct church governments, namely, Church of the East, Chaldean, Maronite, Syriac Orthodox and Syriac Catholic.  These formal divisions had their origin in the 5th century of the Christian Era.  No one can coherently understand the Assyrians as a whole until he can distinguish that which is religion or church from that which is nation -- a matter which is particularly difficult for the people from the western world to understand; for in the East, by force of circumstances beyond their control, religion has been made, from time immemorial, virtually into a criterion of nationality.   3:  the Assyrians have been referred to as Aramaean, Aramaye, Ashuraya, Ashureen, Ashuri, Ashuroyo, Assyrio-Chaldean, Aturaya, Chaldean, Chaldo, ChaldoAssyrian, ChaldoAssyrio, Jacobite, Kaldany, Kaldu, Kasdu, Malabar, Maronite, Maronaya, Nestorian, Nestornaye, Oromoye, Suraya, Syriac, Syrian, Syriani, Suryoye, Suryoyo and Telkeffee. — Assyrianism verb

Aramaic \ar-é-'máik\ n (1998)   1:  a Semitic language which became the lingua franca of the Middle East during the ancient Assyrian empire.   2:  has been referred to as Neo-Aramaic, Neo-Syriac, Classical Syriac, Syriac, Suryoyo, Swadaya and Turoyo.

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