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christianity is designed to shutdown Assyrianism!!

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20. A Big Giant Circle?

May-21-2001 at 03:09 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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Dear Albert,
It has been fun discussing this topic with you, yet this has all been one big, giant circle. First, you believe in an ideology called Assyrianism based on facts about pre-Christian Assyrian culture and heritage you've not yet substantiated by a citation of textbooks or other academic sources that back up your arguments.

Second, you believe in the Bible but you also believe that part of it was written in such a way as to cast the Assyrians as warlike savages. You will have difficulty discussing the bible if you have the mixed position that the bible is part truth and part lie.

Third, you believe Christ is one more way God showed the world to turn from pagan beliefs. If this is true, then why, as a pre-Christian god fearing Assyrianist, would you believe in Christ?

Fourth, you have not commented yet on how Jews who worship 'the God of the old testament' fit into your God fearing-nationalistic model of Assyrianism.

Fifth, I am not positing that we have a 'secret' discussion, have no fear Albert! I wanted to use less space on Atour.com's server, but if you insist this I will still use this forum to show how your Assyrianist theory is in need of revision.

Sixth, and I know I'm asking a lot from you, please provide the following information which is neither an attack or a derision on your person:
1) What is your educational background
2)What are some textbooks that backup your theory
3) Provide answers for the following questions:

What is the bible?
Is the bible as we have it (NKJV, NIV) the infallible word of God?
Is Jesus Christ perfect? Can we worship God without Jesus? (<<--Please answer that one, that is key to our discussion).
How does a person subscribing to Assyrianism differ from a person who subscribes to another Nationalist ideology? What happens if everyone endorses a nationalist ideology? How do you reconcile this with the power of globalization and the diminishing role of the state?
Because i feel that you need to defend this theory of yours, I asked that you would email or IM your responses because you are shirking a lot of key questions. However, if you are most comfortable with this discussion format, then fine, but please answer these questions when you can.
Until next time,
Julia

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Assyria \ã-'sir-é-ä\ n (1998)   1:  an ancient empire of Ashur   2:  a democratic state in Bet-Nahren, Assyria (northern Iraq, northwestern Iran, southeastern Turkey and eastern Syria.)   3:  a democratic state that fosters the social and political rights to all of its inhabitants irrespective of their religion, race, or gender   4:  a democratic state that believes in the freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture in faithfulness to the principles of the United Nations Charter — Atour synonym

Ethnicity, Religion, Language
» Israeli, Jewish, Hebrew
» Assyrian, Christian, Aramaic
» Saudi Arabian, Muslim, Arabic
Assyrian \ã-'sir-é-an\ adj or n (1998)   1:  descendants of the ancient empire of Ashur   2:  the Assyrians, although representing but one single nation as the direct heirs of the ancient Assyrian Empire, are now doctrinally divided, inter sese, into five principle ecclesiastically designated religious sects with their corresponding hierarchies and distinct church governments, namely, Church of the East, Chaldean, Maronite, Syriac Orthodox and Syriac Catholic.  These formal divisions had their origin in the 5th century of the Christian Era.  No one can coherently understand the Assyrians as a whole until he can distinguish that which is religion or church from that which is nation -- a matter which is particularly difficult for the people from the western world to understand; for in the East, by force of circumstances beyond their control, religion has been made, from time immemorial, virtually into a criterion of nationality.   3:  the Assyrians have been referred to as Aramaean, Aramaye, Ashuraya, Ashureen, Ashuri, Ashuroyo, Assyrio-Chaldean, Aturaya, Chaldean, Chaldo, ChaldoAssyrian, ChaldoAssyrio, Jacobite, Kaldany, Kaldu, Kasdu, Malabar, Maronite, Maronaya, Nestorian, Nestornaye, Oromoye, Suraya, Syriac, Syrian, Syriani, Suryoye, Suryoyo and Telkeffee. — Assyrianism verb

Aramaic \ar-é-'máik\ n (1998)   1:  a Semitic language which became the lingua franca of the Middle East during the ancient Assyrian empire.   2:  has been referred to as Neo-Aramaic, Neo-Syriac, Classical Syriac, Syriac, Suryoyo, Swadaya and Turoyo.

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