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christianity is designed to shutdown Assyrianism!!

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24. RE: A Big Giant Circle?

May-21-2001 at 10:01 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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Dear Albert,
That biblical verse you cited is quite interesting. HOwever, you've yet again failed to supply textual references that corroborates your arguments. Your interpretation of this verse is subject to scrutiny because one single verse cannot and did not identify the ethnicity of those three wise men; thus, your radical theory rests on a hypothesis and not academically studied analysis.
Consider:
"Not much is known about these Magi (traditionally called wise men). We don't know where they came from or how many they were. Tradition says they were men of high position from Parthia, near the site of ancient Babylon. How did they know that the star represented the Messiah? 1) They could hve been Jews who remained in babylon after the exile and knew the Old Testament predictions of the Messiah's coming 2) They may have been eastern astrologers who studied ancient manuscripts from around the world. Because of the Jewish exile centuries later, they would have had copies of the Old Testament in their land. 3) They may have had a special message from God directing them to the mEssiah. Some scholars say these Magi were each from a different land, representing the entire world bowing before Jesus. These men from faraway lands recognized Jesus as the Messiah when most of God's chosen people in israel did not. Matthew pictures Jesus as King over the whole world, not just Judaea." (Life Application Study Bible, Pub. by Tindale House/Zondervan).

Now, compare such a thorough interpretation of that verse with your interpretation. Which one is likely to hold ground? The one i posted. Why? Because you've incorrectly assumed and concluded that the Magi were Assyrians. They COULD be, but they ALSO could be any of those possibilities listed above, not excluding other lingering middle eastern tribes (Hittites, Cassites, other semites, chaldeans, etc). Such ambiguity just goes to show that,my dear Albert, ethnicity or class or whatnot, these things do not matter so long as the word of God manifests. God can and will use anyone to fulfil his plan; he's used missionaries from the Middle East, Assyrians, African Americans and Tunisians for his Glory and Will. Your reconciliation of nationality with religion is still shaky and yet to be defended cogently with REFERENCES. Where are the references dear Albert?

Your interpretation and conclusion rests on shaky and unqualified assumptions regarding that verse in the bible, a book that you also say is part false because they do not truthfully account for the Assyrian people.

Julia

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Assyria \ã-'sir-é-ä\ n (1998)   1:  an ancient empire of Ashur   2:  a democratic state in Bet-Nahren, Assyria (northern Iraq, northwestern Iran, southeastern Turkey and eastern Syria.)   3:  a democratic state that fosters the social and political rights to all of its inhabitants irrespective of their religion, race, or gender   4:  a democratic state that believes in the freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture in faithfulness to the principles of the United Nations Charter — Atour synonym

Ethnicity, Religion, Language
» Israeli, Jewish, Hebrew
» Assyrian, Christian, Aramaic
» Saudi Arabian, Muslim, Arabic
Assyrian \ã-'sir-é-an\ adj or n (1998)   1:  descendants of the ancient empire of Ashur   2:  the Assyrians, although representing but one single nation as the direct heirs of the ancient Assyrian Empire, are now doctrinally divided, inter sese, into five principle ecclesiastically designated religious sects with their corresponding hierarchies and distinct church governments, namely, Church of the East, Chaldean, Maronite, Syriac Orthodox and Syriac Catholic.  These formal divisions had their origin in the 5th century of the Christian Era.  No one can coherently understand the Assyrians as a whole until he can distinguish that which is religion or church from that which is nation -- a matter which is particularly difficult for the people from the western world to understand; for in the East, by force of circumstances beyond their control, religion has been made, from time immemorial, virtually into a criterion of nationality.   3:  the Assyrians have been referred to as Aramaean, Aramaye, Ashuraya, Ashureen, Ashuri, Ashuroyo, Assyrio-Chaldean, Aturaya, Chaldean, Chaldo, ChaldoAssyrian, ChaldoAssyrio, Jacobite, Kaldany, Kaldu, Kasdu, Malabar, Maronite, Maronaya, Nestorian, Nestornaye, Oromoye, Suraya, Syriac, Syrian, Syriani, Suryoye, Suryoyo and Telkeffee. — Assyrianism verb

Aramaic \ar-é-'máik\ n (1998)   1:  a Semitic language which became the lingua franca of the Middle East during the ancient Assyrian empire.   2:  has been referred to as Neo-Aramaic, Neo-Syriac, Classical Syriac, Syriac, Suryoyo, Swadaya and Turoyo.

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