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Tavernier and Pope's luck

Apr-10-2001 at 10:45 AM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

Tavernier, the Roman Catholic missionary of the 18th century did clear some of the confusion about the title Chaldean, which we have today. This was in regard to the relationship between Baghdad and Babil (Babylon). Tavernier in his Persian Travels, during the second half of the 18th century, CONFESSED that the Pope was CONFUSED between Babil, and Baghdad, and he was not familiar with the geographical location of both cities. The Pope thought that the term Babylon was applied to Baghdad, even Yohanan (John) Hurmiz, the last patriarch from the family of Aboona, d. 1838, in his biography, mentioned the name of Babil (Babylon) in reference to Baghdad.

This leads us to the fact that if the Pope were indeed aware of the combined Iraqs geography and Church history, he would have in reality called the Nestorian Patriarchs who followed Rome the Patriarch of Baghdad over the Chaldeans. Why? Because the Patriarchal See was at one time in Baghdad but NEVER in Babil. But, the Pope got lucky, fortunately or not; otherwise he would have faced some more serious historical disputes regarding that dubious title from future scholars and theologists. Why? Since there had been no historical connection between Baghdad and the ancient Chaldeans during the Christian era! The Pope got lucky since the ancient Chaldean kings ruled Babylon for 87 years so there was some connection there between the two names Babylon and Chaldeans. But again, nobody until today had EVER proven, even if remotely, of any connection between the ancient Chaldeans and those the Pope styled Chaldeans first in the island of Cyprus in 1445; later in Diyar Bakir, Turkey in 1681; then those so-called chaldeans in Nineveh, Assyria in 1830; and finally those at the Indian Malabar Coast, India.

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