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The True Beginning of History

May-18-2001 at 11:34 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

Mesopotamia: writing, reasoning, and the gods
by: Jean Bottro

Excavators have uncovered almost everywhere in this large area of the Middle East bits and pieces of cuneiform literature from the second millennium on: of its myths, its epics, and its scientific treatises.
And is it not highly significant that the two large collections of international correspondence in the second millennium, those from Mari in the eighteenth century and from el-Amarna (in Egypt) in the fourteenth century were drawn up in cuneiform script and in the Babylonian language? If the Bible, which for a long time was considered to have been more or less a product of the supernatural and to have preserved the oldest records of humanity, has lost this naive privilege, it is because on December 3, 1872, the Assyriologist G. Smith announced in London that he discovered on a cuneiform tablet an account of the Flood that was too similar to that of the Biblical book of Genesis for us to deny the latters dependence, both thematical and literary, upon the cuneiform account. All that we know of the impressive Hittite empire, from the second millennium, shows us that this culture is also indebted to its Mesopotamian older brother: it received from Mesopotamia its script, a part of its vocabulary--and together with the words, the things to which they referred!--and a number of literary, juridical, and scientific models. (page 22)

For a long time a double miracle (in any case, miracles are always suspicious) has prevented historians from going on this road of return to our origin; the image of the Bible, the oldest book on earth, written by God and bestowed upon men in order to give a definite answer to all their questions; and the famous Greek miracle which implicitly presupposes before the Greeks a universe of primates that had barely come down from their trees or nervously left their caves. No historian worthy of that title in its real sense, should see absolute beginnings either in the Bible or with the Greeks--only two great steps on a road that goes much further, much earlier, and ends only between the Tigris and the Euphrates, right before the uncertainties, the twilight, and then the increasing darkness of prehistory. (page 23)

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1. RE: The True Beginning of History

Jun-04-2001 at 06:45 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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Dear Fred,
I Wonder how many people (including Assyrians) have heard these fictional stories, compared to that of the Holy Bible, to which I think, all the world has heard about. If you beleive these fictional stories so much, do you go to a church which preaches them? or are you a hypocrite and attend the Church of the East, which I think, still beleive and quote from the Holy Book.

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Jun-07-2001 at 01:25 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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The reason why the world has not heard about these "fictional stories", as you called them, is because the Jews mainly and some biblical scholars have tried very hard to block them from getting published. They have been working hard to arrange some logical and strong response before these materials became widely known. Imagine what would happen in the world and to the Jewish status if people began to realize that what they have read all their lives from the Old Testament was basically copied from old Mesopotamian legends and stories!

Final thoughts, need to remind you, only for an example, that some people in the USA are not part of main stream Republicans or Democrats, they believe in a completely different ideology. Just because these people go to where Repulicans and Democrats are but they do not preach about what they believe in DOES NOT make them hypocrites. My believes are my own, I preach them where I see it 'appropriate'.

Think about these few paragraphs.

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Assyria \ã-'sir-é-ä\ n (1998)   1:  an ancient empire of Ashur   2:  a democratic state in Bet-Nahren, Assyria (northern Iraq, northwestern Iran, southeastern Turkey and eastern Syria.)   3:  a democratic state that fosters the social and political rights to all of its inhabitants irrespective of their religion, race, or gender   4:  a democratic state that believes in the freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture in faithfulness to the principles of the United Nations Charter — Atour synonym

Ethnicity, Religion, Language
» Israeli, Jewish, Hebrew
» Assyrian, Christian, Aramaic
» Saudi Arabian, Muslim, Arabic
Assyrian \ã-'sir-é-an\ adj or n (1998)   1:  descendants of the ancient empire of Ashur   2:  the Assyrians, although representing but one single nation as the direct heirs of the ancient Assyrian Empire, are now doctrinally divided, inter sese, into five principle ecclesiastically designated religious sects with their corresponding hierarchies and distinct church governments, namely, Church of the East, Chaldean, Maronite, Syriac Orthodox and Syriac Catholic.  These formal divisions had their origin in the 5th century of the Christian Era.  No one can coherently understand the Assyrians as a whole until he can distinguish that which is religion or church from that which is nation -- a matter which is particularly difficult for the people from the western world to understand; for in the East, by force of circumstances beyond their control, religion has been made, from time immemorial, virtually into a criterion of nationality.   3:  the Assyrians have been referred to as Aramaean, Aramaye, Ashuraya, Ashureen, Ashuri, Ashuroyo, Assyrio-Chaldean, Aturaya, Chaldean, Chaldo, ChaldoAssyrian, ChaldoAssyrio, Jacobite, Kaldany, Kaldu, Kasdu, Malabar, Maronite, Maronaya, Nestorian, Nestornaye, Oromoye, Suraya, Syriac, Syrian, Syriani, Suryoye, Suryoyo and Telkeffee. — Assyrianism verb

Aramaic \ar-é-'máik\ n (1998)   1:  a Semitic language which became the lingua franca of the Middle East during the ancient Assyrian empire.   2:  has been referred to as Neo-Aramaic, Neo-Syriac, Classical Syriac, Syriac, Suryoyo, Swadaya and Turoyo.

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