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Atour News Section

Dec-18-2000 at 08:43 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

In our sincere efforts to bring further awareness and to inform the Assyrian people of relevant information, we have posted news releases from a variety of sources to ensure our communities are informed of events which affect our people. Due to the following request, certain articles in the Atour News section need to be deleted from our database systems. We apologize for this inconvenience.

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter BetBasoo
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 6:49 AM
Subject: Copyright infringement

Dear Sir:

On 12-6-2000 the letter below was sent to you in regarding the copyright violations of AINA's content. We have not received a response from you, and the copyrighted material remains on your servers. kindly respond to our requests stated below and remove the copyrighted content from your servers. Your prompt action will be appreciated.


It has come to our attention that several articles and publications ("Items") copyrighted by the Assyrian International News Agency ("AINA"), and which are the intellectual property of AINA, have been found on your server, and that AINA has never granted permission for these Items to be copied to your server.

The Items listed in Appendix A below, and which are now on, are the property of AINA, and are in violation of Sections 2.3 and 2.4 of AINA's Terms Of Use policy ( Accordingly, AINA asks that you:

1) Remove the Items from your server
2) Cease and desist from further acts of copyright infringement, now and in perpetuity
3) Remove any other items belonging to AINA of which AINA is not aware (including any items belonging to AINA's Holocaust page)

You may only link to our content, per the Terms Of Use (see

Your prompt attention will be appreciated.

Appendix A

Peter Pnuel BetBasoo
Assyrian International News Agency

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1. AINA Copyright Notice.

Dec-20-2000 at 02:52 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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Shlama all,

This is my response to this post from Ninos Younan, and I decided to repost it because it is crucial that people understand's position on this issue.

You wrote:
At times those who accuse others of a wrongdoing, express a reaction that is far worse than that of the accused.

Paul >> You should begin to question the motivational factor of those who began this dismal state of affairs. The Atour reaction was a general wake up call to AINA and also a public note to the people, so visitors to do not wander why AINA releases have been deleted in the future. In these crucial periods, specifically in Turkey and northern Iraq, their request to delete their news information was viewed with great dismay and shock.

You wrote:
In this case AINA basically demanded that if anyone is to use AINA releases, and state that they are the releases of AINA, or the source is AINA, there must be care as to the accuracy of quoting from these releases, and as Peter later clarifies, if the release is used in its entirety, nothing is to be modified. This is not an unreasonable expectation.

Paul >> The sources (AINA releases) were copied verbatim with no modifications of their content whatsoever. Read the AINA notice again, your misinterpreting.

You wrote:
This situation was exaggerated so that the brethren sites of Nineveh and Atour to protest the request as being out of line and the reaction was to divert from the main issue and use this situation to the normal reaction of internal bickering, yet claiming that the important issue is the contents of the articles, being the fate of our priest being held hostage in Turkey.

Paul >> Speaking on behalf of, and no other organization, the issue was brought to the attention of the public. People are wise enough to read the AINA notice and come to logical conclusions. The only diversion which has occurred is that Atour development must know focus on finding and deleting AINA articles, further diverting us from the Assyrian Awareness Campaign and other important projects. Look forward to the wonderful Internet projects, which are coming this year.

You wrote:
The proper action for both Nineveh and Atour would have been, to request a clarification from AINA, in private, then state their position and views, again in private, and if all failed, to request the outside views of others whom these website managers have respect for their opinions and again in private, and try to resolve the issues amongst themselves.

Paul >> Speaking on behalf of, and no other organization, discussions were made with AINA prior to the public note to make sure whether this AINA notice was the opinion of one person, being Peter, or a consensus of the AINA group. After our internal discussion, the decision was made to share this critical and irrational AINA notice with the people, so they also can understand the dilemma. Before giving recommendations, check carefully how Yahoo!, Lycos, Altavista and others display identical news articles from Reuters, AP, etc.... and while your researching, remember that does not have their million dollar budgets.

You wrote:
If all failed, then in my opinion all of these sites managers should go and seek help from a good psychiatrist, preferably the same psychiatrist for all of them.
Examine your thoughts before making them public, and do have a great Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Paul >> We've examined volumes of information and base our judgments accordingly. There is no place in nationalism for irrational, emotional outbursts from a news agency (whether it's one person or their group) requesting a website to delete their vital news from the server. Once again, you should begin to question the motivational factor of those who began this dismal state of affairs.
Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Shlama w'Burkate,

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Assyria \ã-'sir-é-ä\ n (1998)   1:  an ancient empire of Ashur   2:  a democratic state in Bet-Nahren, Assyria (northern Iraq, northwestern Iran, southeastern Turkey and eastern Syria.)   3:  a democratic state that fosters the social and political rights to all of its inhabitants irrespective of their religion, race, or gender   4:  a democratic state that believes in the freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture in faithfulness to the principles of the United Nations Charter — Atour synonym

Ethnicity, Religion, Language
» Israeli, Jewish, Hebrew
» Assyrian, Christian, Aramaic
» Saudi Arabian, Muslim, Arabic
Assyrian \ã-'sir-é-an\ adj or n (1998)   1:  descendants of the ancient empire of Ashur   2:  the Assyrians, although representing but one single nation as the direct heirs of the ancient Assyrian Empire, are now doctrinally divided, inter sese, into five principle ecclesiastically designated religious sects with their corresponding hierarchies and distinct church governments, namely, Church of the East, Chaldean, Maronite, Syriac Orthodox and Syriac Catholic.  These formal divisions had their origin in the 5th century of the Christian Era.  No one can coherently understand the Assyrians as a whole until he can distinguish that which is religion or church from that which is nation -- a matter which is particularly difficult for the people from the western world to understand; for in the East, by force of circumstances beyond their control, religion has been made, from time immemorial, virtually into a criterion of nationality.   3:  the Assyrians have been referred to as Aramaean, Aramaye, Ashuraya, Ashureen, Ashuri, Ashuroyo, Assyrio-Chaldean, Aturaya, Chaldean, Chaldo, ChaldoAssyrian, ChaldoAssyrio, Jacobite, Kaldany, Kaldu, Kasdu, Malabar, Maronite, Maronaya, Nestorian, Nestornaye, Oromoye, Suraya, Syriac, Syrian, Syriani, Suryoye, Suryoyo and Telkeffee. — Assyrianism verb

Aramaic \ar-é-'máik\ n (1998)   1:  a Semitic language which became the lingua franca of the Middle East during the ancient Assyrian empire.   2:  has been referred to as Neo-Aramaic, Neo-Syriac, Classical Syriac, Syriac, Suryoyo, Swadaya and Turoyo.

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