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Arabic?

Oct-23-2000 at 00:01 AM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

Realizing that Arabic is a semitic language, was it fully independant or was it a "spin-off" of Ancient Aramaic?

I think "Arab" means "mixed" in Aramaic?

Does "Arab" mean the same in Arabic?

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1. RE: Arabic?

Oct-23-2000 at 10:15 AM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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Shlama Akhi Dean,

I am not a linguist but an enthusiastic amateur and practioner! I do speak, read and write Arabic fluently though. Arabic is a South Semitic language, which like its sister languages, Aramaic, Hebrew, Amharic are all descended from Proto-Semitic. Classical Arabic (still used on the radio, newspapers, TV and most writing) is the most gramatically complex of all of them because it retains the case inflections of Proto-Semitic (nominative, accusative, genitive ) that have disappeared in the others. An excellent article on the Semitic Languages is to be found in the Encylopedia Brittanica with a thorough history. The word "Al-'Arab" is used by Arabs to refer to their people or nation. The concept of an Arab nation transcending national boundries is very old. My arabic dictionary does not give a further etymology of the word "arab", defining it only as the arab people or bedouins. Shlama wa Burkate, Nicholas

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2. RE: Arabic?

Oct-23-2000 at 11:07 AM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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Shlama Akhi Dean,

I think the best answer to that question, at this point, would be to ask another question:

When did the Arabs, and even the Hebrews, appear in history?

The answer to that, of course, is through the Patriarch Awraham. Ishmael and Iskhaq were the two ancestors of these great Semitic Peoples.

So, there was a time when even these 2 brothers spoke the same language, the language of the father Awraham, who was from Chaldea and Harran in Babylonia/Assyria.....prior to being sent to the Promised Land.

The languages spoken at the time in that part of the Middle East were Akkadian (in Mesopotamia "Beth-Nahrin") and (in the Levant/Syria/Aram) Old Aramaic.

This is why all 3 languages are considered to have originated from 1 common ancestor, or perhaps a mixture of Akkadian and Aramaic......what Western scholars term today "Proto-Semitic".

The Arabic alphabet originated from (among other things), the Nabatean script and later from something called "Garshoni", which were Aramaic letters used to write Arabic words.

Arabic, of all the Semitic languages, is the last one to become a literary (written) tongue.

I hope this helped!

Shlama w'Burkate,
Paul

>Realizing that Arabic is a semitic
>language, was it fully independant
>or was it a "spin-off"
>of Ancient Aramaic?
>
>I think "Arab" means "mixed" in
>Aramaic?
>
>Does "Arab" mean the same in
>Arabic?
>
>Thanks
>Dean


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