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Idioms - explained?

Nov-02-2001 at 05:54 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

Hello dear All,

I'm thinking about this for a while... Recently, Akhi Paul point me an idiom "earrings on dogs". Some books which I read about aramaic primacy, emphasised the importance of idioms. I read a lot of idioms summarized in book "Idioms explained" from George Lamsa. I have a question about idioms:

How reliable is this book? This collection is really can be a basis for interpretations? Because I can verify the meaning of the words with a dictionary, lexicon but I can't this with idioms because I don't live there. (Lamsa states that the most of idioms used also today.)

Why it is important for me? It seems, for one side the knowledge of idioms is very useful for clearing the verses. It helps a lot to understand what the ancient people said.
For another side, it seems me dangerous. If we translate the whole Bible using Lamsa's idioms then we get an esoteric, materialist view of the Bible. I'm afraid Lamsa's too liberal theology which remarked by Akhi Paul, Akhi Andrew too, can be originated from too deep and free usage of idioms.

For example, they said the "cast out devils" is an idiom and do mean healing mental disorders. But, how can we know that an idiom is a reality in the same time? I hope you understand my question - when do an idiom mean also relality and when do mean totally another than the literal understanding ?

cheers,
Gabor

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Nov-02-2001 at 11:40 PM (UTC+3 Nineveh, Assyria)

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Hello dear Akhi Paul,

you wrote in another topic about "or cut off our hands, plucking out eyes". Originally I read these idioms in book of Dr. Lamsa.
I found that, this is similar to the case of the eunuchs, the Law write something interesting about this:

man can not sacrifice who is blemish, stumpy:

Lev. 21.17
Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.
For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,

also in case of sacrifice animals:

Lev. 22.23
Either a bullock or a lamb that hath any thing superfluous or lacking in his parts, that mayest thou offer for a freewill offering; but for a vow it shall not be accepted.
Ye shall not offer unto the LORD that which is bruised, or crushed, or broken, or cut; neither shall ye make any offering thereof in your land.
Neither from a stranger's hand shall ye offer the bread of your God of any of these; because their corruption is in them, and blemishes be in them: they shall not be accepted for you.

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