Aramaic Romans 9:5

� Last edited by Paul Younan on Mar-02-2002 at 02:23 AM (GMT3)

Shlama Akhay,

For another wonderful confirmation from the Aramaic scriptures regarding the Divinity of the Messiah, check out Romans 9:5

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"And from among them (the Israelites) is seen/revealed the Messiah in the flesh, who is Alaha (God)"

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Wow Paul,

This is clear and straightforward language.

The kind of language we'd expect in an original, no-nonsense, not convoluted, powerful, orthodox scripture. This is the kind of New Testament we'd expect to exist side-by-side with the Hebrew Tanakh!

Thanks for your research and insight. Please keep it coming ....

-Dean

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Shlama all--

I think we should make a list of all these statements on this issue so that when it comes up again we can just give the link and save two weeks of grief. Everything from Luke 2:12, to ENA-NA permeating Yukhanan, my favorite of 1 Corinthians 12:3 and now this.

Aramaic in the Peshitta NT--comes across as the collection's name intends "simple, straight" and that clarity itself is powerful to behold. I believe even staunch Greek primacists can see this if they compare the texts. There is something to be said for looking at the original language.

Shlama w'burkate
Andrew Gabriel Roth

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Akhay,

The Scholarship in the Zorbist camp is divided on the translation of the GNT also.

Those that translate Theos as subject of the doxology...

Romans 9:5 King James Version (KJV)
Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 9:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.

Romans 9:5 American Standard Version (ASV)
whose are the fathers, and of whom is Christ as concerning the flesh, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 9:5 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen.

Those that translate Theos as such...

Romans 9:5 New King James Version (NKJV)
of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen

Romans 9:5 New International Version (NIV-IBS)
Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.

Shlama,
Yaqub

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Shlama Akhi Yaqub,

Thanks for the info. I take it then that the GNT reads somewhat vaguely here rather than reflecting two different textual variants?

The Aramaic is very clear - it can only be read the way the NIV and NKJV read because of the ordering of the predicates.

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